Stephen Heiner interviews Mario Derksen…

Novus Ordo Watch – the Inside Story:
An Interview on True Restoration

On Mar. 4, 2022, Stephen Heiner of True Restoration sat down with yours truly (Mario Derksen) for an interesting in-depth conversation centering on the personal story behind Novus Ordo Watch.

Established in the fall of 2002, Novus Ordo Watch did not begin as a sedevacantist web site but as one subscribing to the more mainstream traditionalist “recognize-and-resist” position. It took about a year before the switch to Sedevacantism was made, a position held and defended here ever since.

Every convert since the 1960s has his own story of how he came to find pre-Vatican II Roman Catholicism, that is, the authentic Catholicism everyone identified as such before the Second Vatican Council (1962-65). … READ MORE

The debate continues…

Novus Ordo vs. Sedevacantist Discussion, Part 2

The Catholic vs. podcast is a Novus Ordo podcast produced and hosted by David Mary Andrew Ross. The host, who is a convert to the Vatican II Church from atheism (2009), interviews guests who have a religious position different from his own. The format is informal and conversational, and the idea is to generate light rather than heat.

On Sep. 30, 2017, in an episode entitled Catholic vs. Catholic, the host interviewed sedevacantist Stephen Heiner, an episode we featured on this blog. The audio is still available and can be listened to here.… READ MORE

Charitable, informative, challenging

Podcast Discussion: Novus Ordo vs. Sedevacantist

 

The Catholic vs. podcast is a Novus Ordo podcast produced and hosted by David Mary Andrew Ross. The host, who is a convert to the Vatican II Church from atheism (2009), interviews guests who have a religious position different from his own. The format is informal and conversational, and the idea is to generate light rather than heat.

On Sep. 30, 2017, in an episode entitled Catholic vs. Catholic, the host interviewed sedevacantist Stephen Heiner. The show is available for free and can be listened to here:

In roughly 58 minutes, Ross and Heiner challenge each other on a number of different issues, including the teachings of Vatican II, wolves in sheep’s clothing, the disaster of Amoris Laetitia, and the visibility of the Church.… READ MORE