The Catholic Church and the “Conciliar Church”: Two churches in one?

Powerful & incisive…

The Catholic Church and the “Conciliar” Church: Two Churches in One?

Bp. Donald Sanborn dismantles a Linchpin Doctrine of Recognize-and-Resist Theology

In his June 2014 newsletter, Bp. Donald Sanborn, rector of the sedevacantist Most Holy Trinity Seminary in Brooksville, Florida, provides an insightful perspective on the ontological status of what we like to call the “Novus Ordo Sect”, “Vatican II Church” or “Conciliar Church” and the panacean role this concept, in modified form, plays in the ever-convenient but thoroughly erroneous “recognize-and-resist” position, which acknowledges Francis as Pope but rejects his teachings, disciplines, and canonizations. The recognize-and-resisters effectively believe that there are two churches in one — the true one and a false one — and it is their task to figure out when the true Church is speaking and when the false one rears its ugly head.… READ MORE

Resignationism 2.0: Enter “Cardinal” Scola

A “Siri Thesis” for Ratzinger Fans…

Resignationism 2.0:
Enter “Cardinal” Scola

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Things are topsy-turvy in Novus Ordo Land. Now they even have their very own “Siri Thesis.”

After the initial appearance in late 2013 of the position we have termed “Resignationism” — the idea that Benedict XVI’s resignation was invalid and therefore he is still Pope, and Francis a usurper — there followed a few rounds of additional theorizing by adherents of the thesis, especially after Ratzinger explicitly affirmed to a journalist that his resignation was valid indeed. At the time, we predicted that Benedict’s affirmation would still not put an end to the speculations, and we were proven right when Antonio Socci wrote his follow-up article “The Plot Thickens.”… READ MORE

Comedy Hour with John Salza: His interview on Papal Authority

Make popcorn, folks…

Comedy Hour with John Salza:

A Critical Review of his Interview on Papal Authority on Voice of Catholic Radio 

It is really scary to see what is marketed as “traditional Catholicism” by the false traditionalist “Recognize-and-Resist” camp these days. Their stubborn unwillingness to concede that the Vatican II Church cannot be the Catholic Church of our Lord Jesus Christ, and that its “popes” cannot be true Catholic Popes, is driving them to twist and distort genuine traditional Catholic doctrine regarding the nature, authority, and infallibility of the papacy and the Church’s Magisterium.

On March 30, 2014, the Long-Island-based program Voice of Catholic Radio featured a 40-minute interview with “Resistance” apologist John Salza, conducted by host Joe Bagnoli (click here to listen or download).

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Pope Leo XIII Quashes Recognize-and-Resist Position

The Party is over…

Pope Leo XIII Quashes “Recognize-and-Resist” Position

Just as the various Semi-Traditionalist “Recognize-and-Resist” camps are revving up their engines to collectively oppose the impending “canonization” of the apostate bishop Karol Wojtyla, otherwise known by his pseudonym “Pope John Paul II”, Novus Ordo Watch has bent over backwards to unearth and present two little-known papal documents by Pope Leo XIII that absolutely demolish their comfortable position of “having your Pope and beating him too.”

The two documents we present are two Apostolic Letters written by His Holiness in the 1880s, one addressed to the Cardinal-Archbishop of Paris, the other to the Archbishop of Tours.… READ MORE

“Bishop” of Fort Worth, TX, Forbids Traditional Latin Mass at Fisher-More College

Novus Ordo traditionalists in shock…

“Bishop” of Ft. Worth, Texas, Forbids Traditional Latin Mass at Fisher-More College

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Since Rorate Caeli first broke the story, a number of other bloggers have chimed in, and some of them have contributed substantial background information to the case at hand:

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Resignationism: Now “Abp.” Georg Ganswein Weighs In

Resignationism Continued…

Now “Abp.” Ganswein Weighs In:
Benedict’s Emeritus Status “Corresponds to Reality”

“Archbishop” Georg Ganswein, Secretary to Benedict XVI

Italian journalist and author Antonio Socci is back with more on the neverending drama surrounding what we have termed the Resignationist thesis, the idea that the resignation of Benedict XVI (Joseph Ratzinger) was invalid and he is therefore still the legitimate Pope of the Catholic Church, Francis being an impostor. (For those who don’t know, the position of Novus Ordo Watch is that all “Popes” after Pius XII have been impostors. More on that here.)

In his latest contribution, published March 2, 2014 for the Italian El Libero, Socci reveals the “serious answer” Benedict XVI’s private secretary, “Abp.”… READ MORE

CDF Prefect: Door Still Open for the SSPX

No kidding…

CDF Prefect Müller says “Door Still Open” for SSPX to rejoin Rome

The prefect of the Vatican’s Congregation for the Destruction of the Faith, the German “Archbishop” Gerhard Ludwig Müller, has quite a sense of humor. After 11 months of chaos under Jorge Bergoglio, he is reminding the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) that the “door is still open” for them to officially rejoin the Vatican II Sect (which the SSPX believes to be the Catholic Church). The Rorate Caeli blog put up a translation of the relevant excerpt of an Austrian news magazine’s interview with Archheretic Muller:

[T]he prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith maintains that a reconciliation with the Society of Saint Pius X is possible.

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First Response to Bp. Richard Williamson on Sedevacantism

That “Anxiety”…

Bp. Williamson and Sedevacantism

A Response to Bp. Richard Williamson’s Arguments
against Sedevacantism in his Eleison Comments of 2014
(Part 1)

On Jan. 25, 2014, Bp. Richard Williamson, formerly with the Society of St. Pius X, released issue no. 341 of his Eleison Comments, which are sent out on a weekly basis to subscribers by email. In this particular installment, His Excellency once again returns to the topic of sedevacantism. He writes:

The words and deeds of Pope Francis since his election earlier last year have been so little Catholic and so outrageous, that the idea that recent popes have not really been Popes (”sedevacantism”) has been given a new lease of life.

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Abp. Marcel Lefebvre in 1976: Vatican II Was Entirely Bad!

Rare Audio: Abp. Lefebvre in English

Abp. Marcel Lefebvre in 1976: “Some say the Council was Good and has Good [in it]… but that is Not True!”

Here’s an explosive internet exclusive: The Restoration Radio Network has unearthed and broadcast a speech given by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre (1905-1991) on May 11, 1976 in Minneapolis, Minnesota, in which he lays out the modernist heresy, its origins, and the beliefs of modernists which contradict Roman Catholicism. He exposes the Novus Ordo movement to establish a false religion rooted in Freemasonry and Naturalism, which solemnly began with the bogus Second Vatican Council in 1962.

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SSPX Bp. Bernard Fellay denounces Francis as “Genuine Modernist”

But still holds Bergoglio is the Pope…

SSPX Bishop Bernard Fellay:
Francis is a “Genuine Modernist”

Bp. Fellay in a 2008 photo

Kansas City, Missouri (Oct. 12, 2013). The Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X, Bp. Bernard Fellay, has finally broken his silence and denounced the head of the Vatican II Sect, whom he believes to be the Pope of the Catholic Church, as a “genuine Modernist.” Fellay criticized Jorge Bergoglio, “Pope Francis”, for his erroneous and heretical theology, adding at one point that “we thank God, we thank God, we have been preserved from any kind of Agreement [with the Vatican] from last year.”… READ MORE

The “Rad Trads” Respond to Catholic Answers

Response to “Catholic Answers”

Rejoinder from the “Rad Trads”

Chances are you’ve heard of an organization called Catholic Answers in Southern California. This enterprise was founded in 1979 by Karl Keating and has effectively become the de facto bulwark of the Novus Ordo religion in the United States. They follow a policy of strictest adherence to the Novus Ordo Vatican in all things and so are Novus Ordo and modernistic to the core, yet with that “conservative” veneer that keeps many trapped inside the Conciliar Church.

On May 31, 2013, their Catholic Answers Live radio show featured a program entitled “Radical Traditionalism”, which was dedicated to refuting the errors of the Society of St.… READ MORE

The “Canonization” of John Paul II: Time to Decide

In View of John Paul II’s Impending “Canonization”

Decision Time for The Remnant:

Is the Novus Ordo Church the True Church or a Counterfeit Church? 

For decades the semi-traditionalists at The Remnant have been reporting on the apostasy of the Vatican II Church: its evil disciplines, its erroneous and heretical teachings, its impious liturgical laws, its scandalous clergy, its wicked practices. In short, they have been making the overall case that the Novus Ordo Church is the exact opposite of a trustworthy guide in matters of eternal salvation, that it is not the Ark of Salvation but the Ark of Damnation.… READ MORE

The Folly of “Recognize & Resist” Illustrated

Reality Check for Non-Sedevacantists…

Demonstrating the Folly of the False Traditionalist ‘Recognize & Resist’ Position

Inspired by a recent suggestion from Mr. Stephen Heiner of True Restoration, we have decided to illustrate the absudity of the false traditionalist “recognize and resist” position by taking a recent article from Mr. John Vennari, one of the main propagators of this position in the United States, and substituting every mention of “Francis” with the phrase “Vicar of Jesus Christ on Earth”, which Mr. Vennari absolutely insists is exactly who “Pope” Francis is. The recognize-and-resist view is essentially the position that true Catholics must recognize the Vatican II church and its hierarchy as the true Catholic Church of Jesus Christ and as the legitimate Roman Catholic shepherds (in contrast to sedevacantism, which denies that the Vatican II church is the Catholic Church or its clerics are Roman Catholic authorities), yet resist them in any and all matters pertaining to faith, morals, church government, or worship inasmuch as these are harmful, impious, erroneous, sacrilegious, or heretical.

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John Vennari Fed Up with Francis

Calls Bergoglio a Theological “Train Wreck”…
John Vennari of “Catholic Family News”

John Vennari: “I would never allow Pope Francis
to Teach Religion to my Children”

Mr. John Vennari is the editor of the traditionalist but anti-sedevacantist (which we call “semi-traditionalist” or “neo-traditionalist”) monthly paper Catholic Family News. He is one of the few semi-traditionalists whose belief in the claim to the papacy of the leaders of the Novus Ordo Church since 1958 does not cause him to disregard or minimize the ugly facts about these men with regard to their theology and morals. (In this, he distinguishes himself from many of his colleagues, such as the Rev.… READ MORE

“Pope” Francis bashes Opponents of Vatican II

The “Holy Father” Strikes Again

Francis Endorses Vatican II, Bashes Traditionalists

In the walls of the modernist Vatican, it’s business as usual. On April 16, 2013, after prostrating himself in adoration of the Golden Calf of the Second Vatican Council, blasphemously calling it the work of the Holy Ghost, His Phonyness “Pope” Francis (Jorge Bergoglio) explained that there was no turning back of the clock and that those in his church who disagreed with Vatican II were “stubborn” and resisting the Holy Ghost:

The Italian word used by Francis was testardi, and while some have translated it as “stubborn”, others have rendered it as “hard-headed”.

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