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Francis: Today’s Problem is the Non-Acceptance of Vatican II


Post-conciliar “renewal” in one person: Jorge Bergoglio on Oct. 4, 2013, in Assisi, Italy

Founded in 1850 under Pope Pius IX, the Italian Jesuit periodical La Civiltà Cattolica was once the pride and glory of the Roman Pontiff. After the apostate Second Vatican Council (1962-65), it quickly degenerated into the Modernist rag it is today. Its current editor is the Rev. Antonio Spadaro, S.J.

Today La Civiltà Cattolica published an English translation of the question-and-answer session the Jesuit pseudo-pope Jorge Bergoglio (“Pope Francis”) had had with ten editors of various European Jesuit journals in the Vatican on May 19, 2022:

In this post we will touch on some of the “highlights” found in Francis’ words. Since the text is copyrighted, we cannot simply quote from it at length. We will summarize, paraphrase, and quote a little bit.

The first question posed to Bergoglio concerns the mission he thinks Jesuit journals have or should have. He answers that they should “communicate ideas that come from experience”, warning that “a heresy arises when the idea is disconnected from human reality.” This comment is doubly amusing.

First, heresy is a denial of dogma, that is, it is a refusal to assent to what God has revealed. How this should in any way be dependent on “human reality” is anyone’s guess, but then this “Pope” is an existentialist who affirms: “Realities are greater than ideas” (Exhortation Evangelii Gaudium, n. 233). It’s too bad he forgot that that is itself an idea.

Secondly, if there is one man in the world who has shown absolutely no concern for heresy, it is Jorge Bergoglio. The Jesuit from Buenos Aires is a veritable veteran at denying Catholic dogma. Claims that God cannot be God without man, that God does not exist, that Martin Luther was right on justification, that Judas Iscariot might saved, that Faith without charity is not true Faith, that apostates are part of the Catholic Church — these are just a few examples of the theological bilge that has incessantly spewed forth from the mouth of this Argentinian heretic for the last nine years.

Returning now to the Q&A with editors, Francis next takes the opportunity to slam once more that awful “decadent Scholasticism” he has decried several times in the past, which must have triggered sundry traumata in his youth. This time he denounces it as “a theology of pure ideas, totally distant from the reality of salvation, which is the encounter with Jesus Christ.” See, those decadent scholastic idiots had no idea about salvation! Thank goodness that in our day we have the Jesuit Bergoglio unleashing “real” theology that can actually save souls:

Francis then sums up his answer to the question about the mission of Jesuit journals by noting that “reality is superior to the idea, and therefore you must deal with ideas and reflections that arise from reality.”

There we see the typical inductive-empirical theology of the Vatican II Church: Begin with concrete “human reality” and then “reflect” on it, and this way come up with a general theological idea. That is exactly the reverse of traditional Catholic theology, which is deductive and begins with Divine Revelation (or an idea deduced from it), reflects on it, and then draws conclusions for belief or action. Here is an example:

What a difference the correct theological approach makes!

Next up, Francis is asked about “signs of spiritual renewal” he sees in the Church, that is, “signs of new, fresh life”. One shudders to imagine what Bergoglio might consider to be such signs, and he prefaces his answer by making known his conviction that we cannot use “old-fashioned criteria” to identify spiritual renewal but must “renew our way of seeing reality, of evaluating it.” Hmm, why might that be? Perhaps because otherwise he’d have to admit his church is a collapsing house of cards?

One of the “signs of spiritual renewal” he sees in the European church is — get this — “new bishops who remember that there is a Council behind them. Because the Council that some pastors remember best is that of Trent.” How is that for stunningly accurate perceptiveness! In other words, there is hope, according to him, because finally there are some bishops who are discovering Vatican II — what do you know! The hordes of pastors who only know Trent — never mind Vatican I — are finally being diminished! What does one say in the face of such tone-deafness?

Then Francis launches into an all-out assault on “restorationism”, which, he claims, “has come to gag the Council”. He notes that there is a significant number of “restorers”, especially in the United States, who “never accepted the Council”. He is quite right, of course, but what he leaves out of account entirely is that there are many more innovators in the United States (and elsewhere) who don’t accept all the other councils. But he won’t complain about that — after all, he is one of them.

Then Bergoglio offers a laudation of Fr. Pedro Arrupe (1907-91), the “undertaker” of the Jesuit order who was its superior general during the critical post-conciliar years of 1965-83. Francis calls him a “saint” and praises him, among other things, for rejecting “rigid formulations” and “the expression of a closed, rigid thinking….” Clearly a hero in Bergoglio’s world!

Francis’ last remark sums up his incredibly perceptive mind: “Sorry if I went on too long, but I wanted to underline the post-Council and Arrupe issues because the current problem of the Church is precisely the non-acceptance of the Council.”

He’s figured it out!

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