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Francis denies Immaculate Conception, says Virgin Mary Not a Saint from the Beginning

The Novus Ordo circus in Vatican City continues unabated even during one of the most solemn times of the year. Francis is so far removed from Catholicism that he cannot even offer Christmas greetings to his staff without uttering heresy.

On Dec. 21, 2018, Francis received the employees of his Unholy See and Vatican City State at the hideous Paul VI audience hall and, referring to the Nativity scene set up there, said:

Our Lady and Saint Joseph are full of joy: they look at the Child Jesus and they are happy because, after a thousand worries, they have accepted this gift of God, with so much faith and so much love. They are “overflowing” with holiness and therefore with joy. And you will tell me: of course! They are Our Lady and Saint Joseph! Yes, but let us not think it was easy for them: saints are not born, they become thus, and this is true for them too.

(Francis, Christmas Greetings to Employees,, Dec. 21, 2018)

The Italian original has these words:

La Madonna e San Giuseppe sono pieni di gioia: guardano il Bambino Gesù e sono felici perché, dopo mille preoccupazioni, hanno accolto questo Regalo di Dio, con tanta fede e tanto amore. Sono “straripanti” di santità e quindi di gioia. E voi mi direte: per forza! Sono la Madonna e San Giuseppe! Sì, ma non pensiamo che per loro sia stato facile: santi non si nasce, si diventa, e questo vale anche per loro.


The video of the address is available here (the paragraph quoted above begins at the 20:35 min mark).

The fact that Francis suggests that it wasn’t until after some kind of interior struggle that Holy Mary and St. Joseph (finally) “accepted this gift of God”, is troubling and blasphemous enough. This alone would probably suffice to accuse him of heresy. But he goes much further. He explicitly says that it was not easy for them to be joyful at the Birth of Christ because this required holiness that they had not received from birth but had to acquire over time!

Needless to say, it is most certainly generally true that saints are not born but made over time, with penance and prayer, enabled and aided by the grace of God (cf. Mt 11:30). However, the Blessed Virgin Mary is an exception in that she was perfectly holy from the very beginning of her existence, and this is a dogma defined by Pope Pius IX in 1854:

…To the honor of the Holy and Undivided Trinity, to the glory and adornment of the Virgin Mother of God, to the exaltation of the Catholic Faith and the increase of the Christian religion, by the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, of the blessed Apostles, Peter and Paul, and by Our own, We declare, pronounce, and define that the doctrine, which holds that the most Blessed Virgin Mary at the first instant of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of Almighty God, in virtue of the merits of Christ Jesus, the Savior of the human race, was preserved immaculate from all stain of original sin, has been revealed by God, and on this account must be firmly and constantly believed by all the faithful.

Wherefore, if any should presume to think in their hearts otherwise than as it has been defined by Us, which God avert, let them know and understand that they are condemned by their own judgment; that they have suffered shipwreck in regard to faith, and have revolted from the unity of the Church; and what is more, that by their own act they subject themselves to the penalties established by law, if, what they think in their heart, they should to signify by word or writing or any other external means.

(Pope Pius IX, Apostolic Constitution Ineffabilis Deus; Denz. 1641)

So, not only was the Blessed Virgin Mary born a saint — “full of grace” (Lk 1:28) — she was conceived one, too. In other words, she has always been a saint, even from the very first moment of her existence. There was never an instant in which she existed without this fullness of grace; at no point was she ever under the dominion of the devil. This was already hinted at right after the fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden: “I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel” (Gen 3:15).

Yes, we can already think of five things to know and share that Jimmy Akin might offer to exonerate his “Holy Father” from the charge of heresy, but interpretation is one thing and spin another. Francis said what he said, and he wasn’t even speaking off the cuff. He was reading a prepared speech, one that gets reviewed and vetted by a Novus Ordo Dominican theologian in order — make sure you’re sitting down — to ensure it contains nothing heretical or erroneous.

[We pause for a brief moment while you finish laughing.]

But vetted or not, the fact remains that at the end of the day the “Pope” has an obligation to know what he says in public. Should a mistake indeed ever creep in, he then has an obligation to (1) correct the mistake, (2) redress the scandal caused, and (3) take steps to ensure it won’t happen again in the future.

But let’s not kid ourselves here. Francis is right at home with heresy, as our “Pope Francis” page shows, which catalogues his most egregious heresies and howlers. His contempt for the Blessed Virgin Mary is not a secret, although he does, of course, feign a devotion to her most of the time. Recall the following Marian lowlights of his almost 6-year reign of terror so far:

In other words, Jorge Bergoglio has a pattern of insulting Mary Most Holy. (Here we won’t mention his frightful blasphemies against Jesus Christ or the Holy Trinity, which are documented on our Francis page linked above.)

Ah, but Francis also says very noble and beautiful things about the Holy Mother of God, does he not? He certainly does, and he also celebrates the Feast of the Immaculate Conception every Dec. 8. What does this mean, then?

Keep in mind at all times that we are dealing here with a blaspheming deceiver. Contradictory messages and conflicting signals are by design, and they do not show a soul who is confused but one who is trying to cause the greatest possible damage to souls.

As Pope Pius VI said about the innovators he was condeming at the end of the eighteenth century:

[Their way of speaking and acting] cannot be excused in the way that one sees it being done, under the erroneous pretext that the seemingly shocking affirmations in one place are further developed along orthodox lines in other places, and even in yet other places corrected; as if allowing for the possibility of either affirming or denying the statement, or of leaving it up to the personal inclinations of the individual – such has always been the fraudulent and daring method used by innovators to establish error. It allows for both the possibility of promoting error and of excusing it.

(Pope Pius VI, Apostolic Constitution Auctorem Fidei, introduction)

Regarding the heretic Nestorius in particular, the same Pope said:

…he expressed himself in a plethora of words, mixing true things with others that were obscure; mixing at times one with the other in such a way that he was also able to confess those things which were denied while at the same time possessing a basis for denying those very sentences which he confessed.

Sound familiar?

It should. It’s just that, compared to Bergoglio, Nestorius was a choirboy.

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