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It’s Heresy: Francis’ “Ecumenism of Blood”

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This post is not going to make us a lot of friends, but we’ll publish it anyway, since our desire is to serve and please God, not man (cf. Gal 1:10).

We have all heard about the horrific murders of men, women, and children by the ISIS terrorists. The barbarism of these people is beyond comprehension — they are clearly tools of the devil. In response to the most recent video that shows the beheading of 21 Egyptian men for professing belief in Christ, “His Holiness” Francis made a statement on February 16, 2015. As it is very brief, we reproduce the entire news clip from Vatican Radio below:

Pope Francis on Monday denounced the murder of 21 Coptic Christians by ISIL militants in Libya. The Islamist terrorist organization released a video of the killings on Sunday.

Speaking in Spanish to an ecumenical delegation from the Church of Scotland, the Holy Father noted those killed only said “Jesus help me.”

“They were killed simply for the fact they were Christians,” Pope Francis said.

“The blood of our Christian brothers and sisters is a testimony which cries out to be heard,” said the Pope. It makes no difference whether they be Catholics, Orthodox, Copts or Protestants. They are Christians! Their blood is one and the same. Their blood confesses Christ.”

Pope Francis said that in remembering these brothers and sisters who have been murdered simply for confessing Christ, Christians should encourage one another in the ecumenical goal, noting the “ecumenism of blood.”

“The martyrs belong to all Christians,” he said.

(“Pope Francis: The blood of murdered Copts a ‘witness that cries out’, Vatican Radio, Feb. 16, 2015)

“Pope” Francis has promoted his idea of an “ecumenism of blood” before, but it is absolutely clear and unmistakable heresy — in direct contradiction to an infallible dogma proclaimed by Pope Eugene IV at the Council of Florence in the fifteenth century:

[This council] firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that those not living within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart “into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels” [Matt. 25:41], unless before the end of life the same have been added to the flock; and that the unity of the ecclesiastical body is so strong that only to those remaining in it are the sacraments of the Church of benefit for salvation, and do fastings, almsgiving, and other functions of piety and exercises of Christian service produce eternal reward, and that no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.

(Council of Florence, Decree Cantate Domino; Denz. 714; underlining added.)

This absolutely, definitively, and infallibly excludes any possibility of an “ecumenism of blood.” No one dying for the name of Jesus Christ can attain to eternal life unless he is joined to the Catholic Church, either as a formal member, or, if invincible ignorance should prevent his becoming a member, through the genuine virtues of Faith, hope, and charity, the latter of which, to be true charity, must animate the sincere desire to enter the Catholic Church, even if this desire be only implicit.

As the great anti-Modernist Mgr. Joseph Clifford Fenton explains:

…the forgiveness of sin and the infusion of the life of grace is available by the power of Christ only “within” His kingdom, His Mystical Body, which, in this period of the New Testament [i.e., as opposed to the time of the Old Covenant —NOW], is the visible Catholic Church.

…Now, while it is possible to have a desire to be within the Church, and, indeed even to be a member of the Church, without having the love of charity for God, it is quite impossible to have charity without being within the true Church, at least by an implicit desire to dwell in it. The love of charity is, by its very nature, a sovereign affection.

…The love of charity is essentially something in the line of intention rather than of mere velleity. The man who loves God with the true affection of charity actually intends, insofar as it is possible for him to do so, to do the will of God. It is definitely the will of God that all men should enter and live within the Mystical Body of Jesus Christ. It is impossible for a man who really loves God with the affection of divine charity not to be within the Church as a member or at least to desire with a sincere and effective, even though perhaps only an implicit, intention to enter this company.

Hence, if a man is not “within” the Church at least by a sincere desire or affection, he has not the genuine love of charity for God.

(Mgr. Joseph C. Fenton, The Catholic Church and Salvation [Westminster: The Newman Press, 1958], pp. 38-40.)

This scenario, under which someone who objectively professes heresy but is subjectively not guilty of the sin of heresy and instead possesses the love of charity and genuinely seeks to believe all that God has revealed, is killed for professing Christ, is known as the Baptism of Blood. (The term ‘baptism’ here is to be understood loosely, as it merely produces the grace of regeneration, not the sacramental character [indelible mark], and many who profess heresy but are not subjectively guilty of the sin of heresy already received a valid sacramental baptism in their own church. Cf. Pietro Parente, Dictionary of Dogmatic Theology, s.v. “Baptism”.)

It is possible, therefore, that those poor ISIS victims were indeed saved. However, the Baptism of Blood is infinitely far removed from the heretical notion of an “ecumenism of blood” pushed by Francis, which holds that Catholics and heretics are spiritually and/or theologically united by being killed for professing allegiance to Christ. If this were so, then it would mean that the motive of the killer can cause religious unity between Catholics and Protestants, two religions that are exclusive of each other because their claims are mutually exclusive and per se irreconcilable. It would also mean that the Body of Christ has not “one Faith” (Eph 4:5) but several different faiths which contradict one another. The unity of the Church would be destroyed; but: “I believe in … one holy Catholic and apostolic Church” (Nicene Creed).

Furthermore, whereas in a baptism of blood the martyr dies within the Catholic Church of our Lord and any adherence to heresy which may exist would be entirely accidental and not intended (i.e. not pertinacious), in Francis’ proposed “ecumenism of blood” anyone who professes allegiance to Christ is per se considered united to the Church, regardless of any attachment to heresy or a false religion. This is clearly condemned by the decree of the Council of Florence, quoted above.

To put it succinctly: In the baptism of blood, being united to the Catholic Church is a necessary precondition for one’s martyrdom to lead to salvation; whereas in the ecumenism of blood, unity with the Catholic Church is, at best, the inevitable consequence of the martyrdom. This would then make any and all martyrs ipso facto into Catholics, and one might as well include Muslims then, too, for there is no theologically satisfactory reason why if a Protestant who dies for his faith goes to Heaven, this couldn’t also be affirmed of a Muslim dying for his religion. The inevitable result of this is indifferentism, the idea that it ultimately doesn’t matter what religion you profess. Indifferentism was sternly condemned by Pope Pius IX in the Syllabus of Errors (1864).

And thus we see that an “Ecumenism of Blood” is an absurdity, simply the latest in Modernist-indifferentist hogwash dressed up as Catholic theology and foisted upon an unsuspecting populace by the enemies of the true Catholic Faith. Beware of the Modernists, who cleverly seek to eliminate all distinction between true religion and false religion (cf. 2 Cor 6:14; Gal 1:8-9), when for 2,000 years Catholics went to the most cruel deaths rather than admit even the slightest alteration to the true doctrine. In the 1500s, the Catholic Church was willing to see the entire nation of England defect into schism and heresy, and people like St. John Fisher and St. Thomas More to be martyred, rather than so much as grant a fake marriage annulment or compromise on her doctrine by one iota. How things have changed!

Some more words of clarification are in order.

We understand that in the face of these horrific acts perpetrated by ISIS, many people think theological disputes between Catholics and Protestants are mere trifles by comparison and so view Francis’ “ecumenism of blood” as a great and charitable approach to bring Catholics and Protestants together in the face of such a terrifying threat. The truth, however, is very different.

Our Blessed Lord counseled us to fear not him who can kill the body, but him who can kill the soul: “And I say to you, my friends: Be not afraid of them who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will shew you whom you shall fear: fear ye him, who after he hath killed, hath power to cast into hell. Yea, I say to you, fear him” (Lk 12:4-5). These are the very words of God Himself — truer ones have never been spoken. “But God is true; and every man a liar…” (Rom 3:4).

The atrocities committed by ISIS are indeed cruel, but heresy is an infinitely greater danger, because heresy attacks and destroys the soul: “Whosoever revolteth, and continueth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God” (2 Jn 1:9). Pope Clement XIII taught likewise: “Meanwhile the matter is such that diabolical error, when it has artfully colored its lies, easily clothes itself in the likeness of truth while very brief additions or changes corrupt the meaning of expressions; and confession, which usually works salvation, sometimes, with a slight change, inches toward death” (Clement XIII, Encyclical In Dominico Agro, n. 2).

What this means in practice is that Francis is to be feared much more than ISIS. Islamist terrorists can harm the body but the body alone — Francis, as a Modernist apostate, papal impostor, and spiritual terrorist, has power to send souls to an eternity of hellfire, “where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not extinguished” (Mk 9:43). The jihadi terrorist presents himself clearly as a threat to your bodily well-being, and once he has killed you, his terror is forever over. But the Modernist “Pope” presents himself as an “angel of light” (cf. 2 Cor 11:14), as a kind and benevolent spiritual guide, poisoning your soul gradually so you won’t notice. He is therefore the much greater danger and thus much more to be feared. “[T]he moderate [Modernist] is the real Satanic type; his is the masked evil” (Fr. Felix Sarda y Salvany, Liberalism is a Sin, Ch. 16).

Francis’ use of the slaughter of Egyptian Copts to promote his heresy of an ecumenism of blood is shameful and diabolical. Francis’ message here is ultimately that Christ’s Truth does not matter, that the Church consists of many different faiths, that heresy is no obstacle to salvation, and that in the end, none of this “doctrinal stuff” is of any significance. Apparently, Saints Thomas More and John Fisher were just idiots for going to their deaths over such “squabbles.” Francis is essentially spitting Christ in His holy Face, who is “the way, the truth, and the life” (Jn 14:6) and who must be worshipped “in spirit and in truth” (Jn 4:24). Gone is the “one Faith” proclaimed by St. Paul (Eph 4:5).

“Pope” Francis leads souls astray in the most devious and clever manner possible: with words that sound comforting and sweet but which in reality are but a cloak for the most destructive poison (see another example here).

Even if you, dear reader, are not in agreement with us on this point and believe that Francis’ Ecumenism of Blood is a great and noble concept, please recognize at least one thing: that what Francis preaches is contradicted by the teaching of the Council of Florence, as we showed above. And yet, the Cathoilc Church teaches that the dogmas of her Faith cannot change, cannot “develop” under the pretext of a “deeper understanding”:

…[T]hat understanding of its sacred dogmas must be perpetually retained, which Holy Mother Church has once declared; and there must never be recession from that meaning under the specious name of a deeper understanding…. “Therefore . . . let the understanding, the knowledge, and wisdom of individuals as of all, of one man as of the whole Church, grow and progress strongly with the passage of the ages and the centuries; but let it be solely in its own genus, namely in the same dogma, with the same sense and the same understanding.”

(First Vatican Council, Dogmatic Constitution Dei Filius, Ch. 4; Denz. 1800)

The religion promoted by Francis is not the Catholic religion of old. The man is not a Catholic, and he therefore cannot be the head of the Catholic Church.

Fear him, for he leads souls to hell.

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15 Responses to “It’s Heresy: Francis’ Ecumenism of Blood is more dangerous than ISIS”

  1. James

    The longstanding policy of the Catholic Church—and the entire purpose of the Council of Florence—was to reunite the Orthodox (and Coptic) Bishops with Rome, not to convert individual Orthodox (or Coptic) Christians to Catholicism.

    The division between Coptic Christianity and Catholic Christianity is due to a misunderstanding of the Council of Chalcedon, where a difference in theological terminology on an esoteric point of doctrine had led each side to believe the other had embraced heresy about the nature of Christ. The Coptic Church professes the Nicene Creed. They are apostolic, founded by St. Mark the Evangelist. They have valid sacraments.

    How can we consider a man blameworthy for obeying his priests and bishops who are following the faith given to them by the Apostles? How can we call 20 men’s profession of Christ in the face of certain death anything other than martyrdom? The 21st martyr wasn’t even baptized, but was inspired by martyrdom of the others to make his own profession of faith.

    • Eric H

      Catholicism isn’t one among several apostolic Christian bodies. The Roman Catholic Church is the one church of Christ, period, according to her own teaching.

      A good resource on the Catholic Church’s relations with schismatic sects is The Communication of Catholics with Schismatics by Rev. Ignatius Szal (C.U.A. Press, 1948). Here are some quotations relevant to your comment:

      … Although today one can consider schismatics as heretics, at least theoretically, they are from a practical viewpoint closer to the whole truth than any other non-Catholic body. In this respect they may be placed in a distinct category.

      From another practical point of view the danger of communicating with schismatics is far greater than that with regard to other sects, because of the similarity of their rites and ceremonies to those of the Church. This is especially true in corresponding disciplines of the Oriental Catholic and “Orthodox” Churches. For this reason such communication may be more pernicious, and indifferentism may easily result. A Catholic would be more inclined and more easily persuaded to consent to communicate with schismatics than he would be were it a question of heretical worship. In view of these differences, communication with schismatics presents a distinct problem somewhat different from other types of communication.

      In practice, also, there is noticeable a decided lenience in favor of the schismatic. Catholics cannot compromise with schismatics in their teachings, but there is more often manifested a more considerate attitude toward the individual schismatic than toward the heretic, who is so far from the truth. This attitude of mind has perhaps led to some abuses and practices which cannot be permitted or tolerated since they are wrong in principle, though many practices can be permitted as long as they remain short of active religious participation in schismatic rites.

      Many authors today consider schismatics to be guilty also of heresy. They base their doctrine principally on the definition by the Vatican Council in 1869 of Papal infallibility. Schismatics at least by their actions imply a denial of this dogma. Many of them are in good faith, but many, too, are guilty of formal heresy. Nevertheless, this fact of the definition on Papal infallibility has not in actual practice effected a substantial change in the nature of schismatical sects. They still retain their identity, and are constituted as a group distinct from other heretical groups.

      With the passing of time the gap between the Catholic Church and the Oriental schismatic churches widened, but the schismatics have retained many dogmas, traditions, and rites whereby they have much in common with Catholics at least in a practical way. Hence the problem of communication with them is still a problem distinct from that of communication with heretics, and one which accordingly is worthy of specific consideration. The Church still lives in the hope of uniting the East and the West. As long as that hope survives the Church cannot treat lightly the question of religious communication with schismatics. There are principles to be preserved, but there are also souls to be saved. The problem is a delicate one, but if it be duly understood, then souls can be saved without the sacrificing of principle in so far as human efforts can be employed to the end of securing the salvation of souls. (Szal pp. 40-41)

      As to the present status of schismatics, there are authors who consider most of the Oriental dissidents as being in good faith, and consequently as being not guilty of formal schism. This is true not only of the uncultured and illiterate Orientals, but also of the educated, for after so many years of schism they hold to many erroneous ideas about the true Church, the while they continue oblivious and unconscious of the errors they profess (citation omitted).

      Christians who were born and educated in heresy or schism, as long as they remain in good faith, are not bound by the penalties of heretics or schismatics in the internal forum in view of all lack of obstinacy on their part; however, if they are converted to the true faith after they have reached the age of fourteen years, they need absolution from the excommunication in the external forum, since in consequence of the rule expressed in canon 2200, §2, they are presumed bound by the censure (citation omitted). (Szal, pp. 12-13)

      • James

        The Orthodox say the exact same thing: They are the One Holy Orthodox Church founded by Christ and Rome fell into error over Papal Authority. The Churches of Rome and Constantinople were founded by brothers and they fight like brothers.

        I have to admit it is rather embarrassing when the Greek Orthodox (rightly) say their liturgy is 1600 years old when we discarded our 1500 year old liturgy back in 1970.

        • Eric H

          I’m not familiar with what the Eastern schismatics say, but clearly they and the Roman Catholic Church can’t both be right.

          Yes, what passes for the Catholic Church nowadays is embarrassing and scandalous. I don’t believe it’s really the Catholic Church. We’re in the great apostasy and it’s an organization of heretics who have taken over the Catholic buildings.

  2. Rebecca Bonnell

    I agree with you 100% that Pope Francis is a Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing and i would go as far to say that He is Extremely Dangerous to all who are of the Catholic Faith and to those of other faiths that he is cavorting with. He is in the perfect position to manipulate all who he preaches to with his False Doctrine of peace and unity as when they say Peace and Safety…Watch Out…!!!

    Belong to Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ and Support Israel and give up man made religion. The Protestant Faith is now in Steep Decline for listening and supporting Pope Francis and even allowing Muslim’s to pray to their god in some of our Churches…GOD Will Not Be Mocked and Will Shake All His Churches Awake to the Apostasy we have allowed into our Churches and the false doctrines being preached from the pulpits and not readying His Flock as to The Times we are All in…

    Pope Francis is Very Clever at winning people over and i had to read his latest speech very carefully to see the errors as i knew they would be there as you have rightly pointed out.

    Rebecca X

      • Rebecca Bonnell

        Supporting The Jewish people, the one’s who we owe a debt of gratitude to for carrying the Torah through the Wilderness for 40 Years and until Now, who didn’t recognise Jesus as their Messiah when Jesus was in The Flesh and We did and were grafted in to The Olive Tree. GOD Say’s those who Bless His People He Will Bless and those who come against His People He Will Come Against…!
        Genesis 12:3
        Numbers 24:9,
        Therefore Bless Israel and The Jewish People help them where GOD leads you to help them and Don’t Curse Them but get to understand them and be Grateful for Your Dear Jewish Brothers and Sisters, for they have Much to Learn and Much to Overcome and GOD Will Restore All Their Land Back To Them and Woe to those who try to divide GOD’s Holy Land and take it away from The Jewish People as GOD Will Divide Their Land.
        Joel 3:2

        There are Plenty of Jewish Charities one can give to help Further GOD’s Holy Word The Complete Bible(The Messianic) and to The Homeless, The Poor, Orphans, Widows/Widowers and Infirmed.

        Hope this Blesses You and Answers your question.
        GOD Bless,
        Rebecca X

        • Novus Ordo Watch

          Dear Rebecca,
          You are quite mistaken if you think that today’s state of Israel is the Israel of the Old Covenant. It is not so, and for this reason all references to the Israel of the Old Covenant cannot be applied to today’s Israel.

          There is, however, a reference to today’s apostate Jews in the New Testament: “I know thy tribulation and thy poverty, but thou art rich: and thou art blasphemed by them that say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan” (Apoc 2:9).

          At best, the only link to the people of the Old Testament that today’s Jews can claim is the carnal link (and many of today’s Jews do not even have that). But our Blessed Lord said:

          “If you be the children of Abraham, do the works of Abraham.” (Jn 8:39)
          “It is the spirit that quickeneth: the flesh profiteth nothing.” (Jn 6:64)

          And St. Paul said: “For there is no distinction of the Jew and the Greek: for the same is Lord over all, rich unto all that call upon him.” (Rom 10:12)

          • Novus Ordo Watch


            I think you missed the main point of my response to you: Today’s “Jews” are NOT the Jews of the Old Covenant. It therefore makes no sense for you to be grateful to the pseudo-Jews of our day.

            Anyway, I have removed the remainder of your lengthy post because it was basically an advertisement for Zionism, founded on your fundamental error about today’s “Jews”, and because it has nothing to do with the post you’re commenting on to begin with.

          • Rebecca Bonnell

            Dear Novus Ordo Watch, No i didn’t miss the point at all i was letting you see that Our Dear Almighty Father GOD YAHWEH has been supporting The Jewish Nation and that what you see as Zionism and thus are against The Jews of Today IS A MISTAKE…Shame as i tried to help you see The Truth but you do not wish to see it.

          • Rebecca Bonnell

            If the Jewish Nation was accursed then it wouldn’t be such the Successful Rags to Riches Story for a Young Nation to be Thriving So Quickly and Prosperously…OIL, GAS, GOLD…

          • Novus Ordo Watch

            Oh Rebecca, I’m afraid you have not understood anything about the Gospel… You have a very carnal understanding of God’s blessings and favor. Please review the Beatitudes in Matthew 6.

          • Rebecca Bonnell

            Smiles…i can personally testify to Matthew 5:8.

          • Babs Byrne

            Rebecca, please be careful using that as a yardstick of God’s favor. Look at the New World Order; the MEGA rich people who have – in human terms – everything they wish for. They are systematically attempting to destroy the One, True, Holy , Apostolic Catholic Church……………………..Satan rewards his minions handsomely with EARTHLY treasures! We settle for eternal happiness. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam.

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