Vatican II Debate

The Ecclesiology Debate:
Did Vatican II Teach Heresy?

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Bp. Donald Sanborn vs. Dr. Robert Fastiggi

 

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Resolved: The teaching of the Second Vatican Council and the Post-Conciliar Church about the Nature of the Catholic Church is HERETICAL.

Participants:

  • Affirmative: Most Rev. Donald Sanborn (Sedevacantist)
  • Negative: Dr. Robert Fastiggi, Ph.D. (Novus Ordo)
  • Moderator: Mr. Courtney Robinson

Date of Debate: July 19, 2004

Length of Debate: 2:00 hrs

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Documents & Documentation relating to this debate

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 Brave New Mercy…
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Ecumenical Memorial Service for Lutheran Sodomite in Cologne Basilica — Novus Ordo Prelate preaches Eulogy

For those who still think that the Novus Ordo Sect is holding the line regarding the condemnation of homosexuality, we must report that despite what some few “official documents” might say, the lived reality is quite the opposite.

On March 18, 2016, the former Vice Chancellor and Foreign Minister of Germany, Guido Westerwelle, died of leukemia in his home town of Cologne at the age of 54:

Westerwelle, a registered Lutheran, was a public sodomite who lived in an officially-recognized civil partnership, commonly referred to as “homo marriage” in Germany, with his “husband”, Michael Mronz.

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Ecumenism & Interreligious Dialogue:

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Indifferentism and Syncretism Repackaged

 

At the heart of the Novus Ordo Church there is Ecumenism, a collection of heretical, erroneous, and impious beliefs and practices that — officially — aims to bring about “unity” among all those who claim the name of “Christian.” In similar fashion, the practice of Interreligious Dialogue aims to foster good relations with Jews, Mohammedans, and Pagans of every kind.

Lip service to the contrary notwithstanding, both ecumenism and interreligious dialogue deny the uniqueness of the Catholic Church as the only true Church established by God, the necessity of belonging to the Church for salvation, the dogma of the unity of the Church in faith and government, and many other Catholic doctrines, whether implicitly or explicitly.

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The Holy Catholic Mass

The Holy Catholic Mass:

How the Vatican II Sect transformed the August Sacrifice of the Altar into a Liturgical “Happy Meal”

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Nowhere is the apostate nature of the Vatican II religion more evident than in what it has done to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, which is the true and perfect worship which alone is per se acceptable to the Most Holy Trinity. Thick tomes could be — and have been — written on the liturgical changes perpetrated by the Vatican II Sect, and certainly it is beyond the scope of this page to address them all. Rather, on this page we will present an overview of what has changed and then point you to resources that provide further details:

Direct Comparison: Traditional Latin Mass of the Ages vs.

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John XXIII

Paul VI

The Facts About “Pope Paul VI” – Giovanni Battista Montini

What You Need To Know About the Man who Claimed to be the Pope from 1963-1978

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“Paul VI”

On August 6, 1978, Bishop Giovanni Battista Montini, the man who claimed to be the Pope of the Catholic Church from 1963 to 1978 under the name of “Paul VI”, was called by God to judgment. It was Paul VI, more than any other of the Conciliar papal pretenders, who visibly transformed the Holy Roman Catholic Church into the Modernist Novus Ordo Sect of the Second Vatican Council, whose documents he alone approved and promulgated.

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John Paul II

United in heresy…

Francis again affirms Non-Catholic “Martyrs”, says Monophysites are Part of the Body of Christ

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Image: L’Osservatore Romano

Please pardon us if we sound repetitive, but it is “Pope” Francis’ fault, for he is the one who keeps repeating the same heresies over and over again. We realize that, deplorably, we find ourselves so deeply trapped in Theological Absurdistan now that one more heretical statement from the “Holy Father” will barely elicit any reaction from those who have long made themselves believe that a heretical Pope is not only possible but even a fairly common, or at least trivial, occurrence in Church history.

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Full Text of Declaration now Available…

Francis meets Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill in Cuba: Video Coverage & Links

On Friday, February 12, the leader of the Modernist Vatican II Sect, “Pope” Francis, met with his fellow-non-Catholic “Patriarch” of Moscow, Kirill, of the Russian Orthodox Church. The two signed a common declaration in Cuba, which is available in full here:

Various videos of Francis’ brief stop in Cuba and meeting with Kirill can be found below.

Francis arrives in Cuba:

Kirill and Francis embrace in Cuba:

Presentation of the Common Declaration between Francis and Kirill:

Francis stopped in Cuba while on his way to Mexico for an “Apostolic Voyage”, which we cover in a separate blog post.

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Don’t forget to act surprised…

Francis to Travel to Sweden to Commemorate Protestant Reformation in October

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Lund Cathedral in Sweden – Photo: Creative Commons

From our rapidly-growing “You Sedevacantists are just a bunch of Protestants!” file:

The Unholy See in Vatican City has just released the following statement to the press: “His Holiness Francis intends to participate in a joint ceremony of the Catholic Church and the World Lutheran Federation to commemorate the 500th anniversary of the Reformation, scheduled to take place in Lund, Sweden on Monday 31 October 2016” (source).

Vatican Radio has elaborated on this announcement and posted the following news story:

(Vatican Radio) Pope Francis will travel to Sweden in October for a joint ecumenical commemoration of the start of the Reformation, together with leaders of the Lutheran World Federation and representatives of other Christian Churches.

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Heaven forbid someone should convert!

Francis: “Never Proselytize in Schools!”

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…or anywhere else, for that matter!

Mr. Jorge “Preach the Gospel Always” Bergoglio — aka “Pope Francis” — has once again stressed that the last thing he actually desires is anyone’s conversion to Catholicism, and here we don’t even mean authentic Catholicism, as found before Vatican II, but even just the NovusOrdo-distorted version of it.

The liberal Italian newspaper La Repubblica (Francis’ favorite, founded by his bosom buddy, the atheist Eugenio Scalfari) published the following on November 21, 2015:

Vatican City: Never proselytize in schools. Pope Francis said this in the Paul VI Audience Hall to seven thousand participants at the World Congress on Catholic Education organized by the Congregation in charge of Catholic Education.

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50 Years of the Modernist Juggernaut

Vatican II: The Documents Examined

Bp. Donald Sanborn dismantles the Chief Errors
of the Second Vatican Council (1962-65)

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The Modernist monstrosity known as the Second Ecumenical Council of the Vatican opened on October 11, 1962, and officially closed on December 8, 1965, almost exactly 50 years ago. “Vatican II”, as it came to be known, laid the doctrinal and pastoral groundwork for the Novus Ordo Religion, which is why in most cases, the “New Catholicism” that emerged after the death of Pope Pius XII (1958) refers back into the past no further than “Pope” John XXIII (Angelo Roncalli, d.

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009 TRADCAST (18 NOV 2015)

Contents

  • Segment 1: Announcements — Francis’s obsessive denunciation of metaphorical Idolatry contrasted with his approval of literal Idolatry
  • Segment 2: Response to Eric Gajewski and John Salza’s “Sedevacantism, Fatima, and Freemasonry” program of Oct. 24, 2015 (Part 1)

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Fallout from the latest Francis Fiasco

Novus Ordo Priest warns Francis the Holy Ghost will Strike him Dead or Incapacitate him!

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As we predicted early on, Francis has caused nothing but chaos in the Modernist Sect since he began to play “Bishop of Rome” on March 13, 2013. Apparently not familiar with the job description of even Novus Ordo “Pope”, Francis has recently announced that when it comes to the question about whether Lutherans and “Catholics” can participate in each other’s “communion” (which he called the “Lord’s Supper”), he will leave this to “those who understand”, to “the theologians”, because it is “not my competence”, as he said in an answer riddled with heresy on November 15 during a visit to one of Rome’s Lutheran churches.

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“Chaos Frank” on shared “Communion” with Lutherans: francis-lutherans-nov2015.jpg

“I leave that Question to the Theologians and those who understand… Life is Bigger than Explanations”

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Someone call Jimmy Akin and the rest of the Novus Ordo cleanup crew: Chaos Frank has made a mess again! With him visiting an Evangelical Lutheran Church in Rome on Sunday, Nov. 15, 2015, we knew to expect anything but Catholicism from the Modernist lips of Jorge Bergoglio. And sure enough, he did not fail to deliver.

Not surprisingly, a Lutheran woman married to a “Catholic” asked the “Roman Pontiff” if Lutherans and “Catholics” would not finally be allowed to share each other’s “Communion”.

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